Joel Klatt weighs in on initial CFP rankings, talks OSU, Oregon's playoff hopes | CFB | THE HERD

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  • The Herd with Colin Cowherd

    Would a CFP expansion be good for College Football?

    • Marcus Knight
      Marcus Knight  3 days back

      Oregon, Georgia and Utah have no business over Oklahoma. Oregon almost lost to Washington state, lost to Auburn. LSU beat Texas by 7 and Oklahoma beat Texas by 7. Georgia loses to South Carolina with is unranked. Utah loses to an unranked team. Oklahoma is being left out for some NCAA, Committee reason. This eye test is BS. Nobody is ranked in the Pac 10 in the top 25 but Utah and Oregon.

    • Makai Brown
      Makai Brown  3 days back

      yes

    • Butch McCarty
      Butch McCarty  4 days back

      The Herd with Colin Cowherd
      YES! Every game will still matter!

    • zach Hardware
      zach Hardware  6 days back

      "It doesn't matter in post season play" wouldn't they be trying to win the west? If you win the west, you can play for the SEC title, and that AQ spot, so yes, it would matter.

      You would also schedule tough non-conference games to boost strength of schedule, in case you are a one-loss team that doesn't win their respected conference. In that case you could fight for one of the three at-large bids. The regular season may be diminished a tad, but not to the degree
      Mr. Klatt says.

  • #1000 Lives
    #1000 Lives  2 days back

    Usually Joel Klatt destroys Cowherd but his playoff argument was horrible

    • Jason Knight
      Jason Knight  3 days back

      Problem is if they don't expand the CFP all the schools that are not in the bigger conference will suffer it will be even worse with just SEC teams getting stronger, because if you're one of the best recruits in the country you want to try and compete for a national title not have no chance at all because you went to a PAC-10 conference.

      • Zemeckis Lebowski
        Zemeckis Lebowski  3 days back

        The skill gap between the Pats and the Bengals is infinitesimally smaller than the skill gap between LSU and WKU, or Ohio (Not Ohio State), or any number of small teams.
        When the Pats get upsetted, it shows the strength of any team that beat them. All 16 NFL games matter because of how much these teams actually play each other, and how relatively equally matched they are.

        • Kid Cuddy
          Kid Cuddy  3 days back

          Klatt's actually top class, talks a lot of sense

          • Makai Brown
            Makai Brown  3 days back

            That argument saying that expanding the playoffs would downgrade the regular season. They will still be intensity and urgency in every serious game that effects a playoff rank.

            • Ibreezy100
              Ibreezy100  3 days back

              clemson did last year they were 15-0 Alabama did it they were 14-1 that loss was in the natty

              • Marco Polo
                Marco Polo  4 days back

                No the LSU vs Bama game would become like a scrimmage or a pre-season game. An I would not watch that. I'd go do something else besides watch TV.

                • Solomon Jensen
                  Solomon Jensen  4 days back

                  I think it's insane utah isn't getting any love. The game they lost to USC their best player was out. Zack moss is the corner stone of their offense

                  • Scott Green
                    Scott Green  4 days back

                    Ohio State is better than Miami’s best national championship team. I’m a Canes fan, but Ohio State isn’t letting anyone in the game from the 2nd quarter and their starters haven’t played a 4 quarter game yet.

                    • Boofer T. Washington
                      Boofer T. Washington  4 days back

                      As long as Oklahoma doesn't win a 🏆, I'm good.

                      • Lurpworld
                        Lurpworld  4 days back

                        When Klatt goes on his diatribe of "the regular season matters", I wished Colin would actually ask why teams like Bama playing Citadel or Wofford in the regular season matters. It's a BS argument to say that expanding the playoff protects the importance of the regular season when all to big schools schedule creampuffs throughout Non conference. Either the entire season matters and if your scheduling soft hurts you, regardless of tradition, or the season doesn't matter nearly as much as Klatt proclaims. It's just one more way to ensure exclusivity and money flows to very specific schools.

                        • Brian Sheide
                          Brian Sheide  4 days back

                          Has Klatt seen Bama's non-conference schedule? Those SEC schools don't play anyone because they think they can ride the conference to strength of schedule.

                          • MANSTER 54
                            MANSTER 54  4 days back

                            So Stupid, I hate Bama and have for 56 years. But a loss to LSU does not equal a loss to South Carolina in any way form or fashion ! I can't stand all you idiots. And the politically picked committee making all the decisions. Its all about money. The Sports money market is so far out of concept with reality, its disgusting.

                            • Brian
                              Brian  4 days back

                              How is the season worth anything to date? You are delusional if you think the committee values the regular season.

                              1. 25-0 UCF doesn’t make it
                              2. Ohio state plays Oklahoma that game kicks them out of the CFP
                              3. Bama ahead of Oregon and Minnesota this year

                              • Gen Street
                                Gen Street  4 days back

                                Gotta agree with Klatt on this one. Part of what makes college football so great is because you know that in some games your season is on the line. An 8 team playoff sounds great but if LSU/Bama played and it were an 8 team playoff it wouldn’t mean as much.

                                • Gen Street
                                  Gen Street  4 days back

                                  Brian UCf didn’t make it because they’re garbage and proved it against LSU in the Fiesta Bowl. If Baylor and Minnesota win out they will 100% make it over Alabama and its not even debatable. Ohio States season will be on the line in the Big 10 championship because if they lose that game they will not make it. Make an 8 team playoff and Ohio State makes it regardless if they win or lose that game.

                                • Brian
                                  Brian  4 days back

                                  Gen Street how is the season on the line if your gonna have 1 loss Georgia and Alabama above Baylor and Minnesota?

                                  UCF didn’t lose for two years. TWO YEARS!!! And didn’t make it

                                  You are delusional...

                              • abeer 30
                                abeer 30  4 days back

                                500 dollars shoes lol.

                                • James Buckey
                                  James Buckey  5 days back

                                  Am I the only one who is more impressed by tight close wins than blowouts?

                                  • daviddrewmills
                                    daviddrewmills  5 days back

                                    I'm sorry man but saying Ohio states schedule is anything close to lsu is just ridiculous.

                                    • Billy Bob
                                      Billy Bob  5 days back

                                      I think they ranked Alabama at 3 for the exact opposite reason. They put bama at 3 so if they did lose to Lsu they can still put them at 4 because they lost to the number 2 team. Im really surprised they didn’t put lsu at #1 to make this point even stronger.

                                      • Defy9Ordinary #ONE
                                        Defy9Ordinary #ONE  5 days back

                                        Joe Klatt just loves OSU. That's the only team he ever praises. Stop kissing Ohio State's arse Joe! #BurrowWinsTheHeisman

                                        • Kurai Chitaukire
                                          Kurai Chitaukire  5 days back

                                          Can anyone recommend a site that can help me understand these rankings.

                                          • Kurai Chitaukire
                                            Kurai Chitaukire  4 days back

                                            @Brian I fell in love with college football last year and I'm just trying to expand my understanding. This system makes zero sense as your comment rightly states.

                                          • Brian
                                            Brian  4 days back

                                            Kurai Chitaukire Yeah it’s called the toilet, because the CFP rankings are bs

                                        • Kyle Chandler
                                          Kyle Chandler  5 days back

                                          I’m still watching LSU vs Bama if there’s an 8 team playoff, the regular season matters still with 8 teams the only difference is a team can lose 1 or 2 games with good sos. I’m sorry any one who argues that less competition and games is good for the sport is stupid

                                          • Kyle Chandler
                                            Kyle Chandler  4 days back

                                            Brian that’s why I argue for an 8 team as well they put Bama in every year even tho Bama doesn’t play a single team that’s worth a damn until November. So let’s give some other conferences a chance. Klatt acts like the regular season matters so much and does for every team not named bama

                                          • Brian
                                            Brian  4 days back

                                            Kyle Chandler or if you’re Bama you can still make the CFP with a mediocre SOS and one loss.

                                            In 2017 a non-conference champion, non division winner with 1 loss and 2 Top 25 wins over #18 and #20 made it over:

                                            - 11-2 Ohio State B10 Champion with 3 Top 25 wins over #6, #8, and #16 (loses to #3 Oklahoma and Purdue).

                                            - 13-0 UCF AAC Champion with 2 Top 25 wins over #21 and #23

                                        • Ricky Morgan
                                          Ricky Morgan  6 days back

                                          My God they said the same thing about OSU the year Clemson 31-0. I want to see them play someone not in the Big10.

                                          • Brian
                                            Brian  4 days back

                                            Ricky Morgan They Beat Cincinnati 42-0 who is tied first for the AAC - a conference that is currently statically more competitive and dominant than the ACC (4 Top 25 teams to date)

                                        • Kevin Clement
                                          Kevin Clement  6 days back

                                          LSU would beat OSU no doubt

                                          • 23Kingsolomon
                                            23Kingsolomon  6 days back

                                            EVERYBODY IS SLEEPING ON OREGON!!!!

                                            • Radical Liberalist
                                              Radical Liberalist  6 days back

                                              They didn't even see the Gophers coming

                                              • Erica Allispn
                                                Erica Allispn  6 days back

                                                Alabama just got disqualified maybe they will schedule an opponent nonconference

                                                • Erica Allispn
                                                  Erica Allispn  6 days back

                                                  A rule should be made only one team from the conference can be in CFP and you must be in a conference. Meaning ND doesn't ever qualify or any other independent until they join a conference and you must win the conference championship bottom line

                                                  • Donnie Locklear
                                                    Donnie Locklear  6 days back

                                                    Sounds like someone needs to check the stats!

                                                    • Dwemmer Supremacy
                                                      Dwemmer Supremacy  6 days back

                                                      This man just claimed that Ohio State’s schedule is harder... 😂😂😂

                                                      • zach Hardware
                                                        zach Hardware  6 days back

                                                        "It doesn't matter in post season play" wouldn't they be trying to win the west? If you win the west, you can play for the SEC title, and that AQ spot, so yes, it would matter.

                                                        You would also schedule tough non-conference games to boost strength of schedule, in case you are a one-loss team that doesn't win their respected conference. In that case you could fight for one of the three at-large bids. The regular season may be diminished a tad, but not to the degree
                                                        Mr. Klatt says.

                                                        • Christopher Foote
                                                          Christopher Foote  6 days back

                                                          What we have in place now I think is as close to the ideal as we can possibly get without making an overhaul. It's in FACT a double-elimination championship. Teams that lose two games are excluded. If we include eight then that paradigm changes to three. Sixteen it's four and so on. There's nothing to be gained by including additional teams in the championship. Zip. Nada. Nothing. It's a terrible idea. It will ruin the sport. By the way eight was prohibitive in the BCS. That's why they included a fifth bowl. That element hasn't changed. Eight won't address access appropriately. It's a bad idea. It is.

                                                          • Ed Sev
                                                            Ed Sev  6 days back

                                                            Let’s remind ourselves the trash talk Ohio state did then took a severe beating by Clemson couldn’t even get a field goal but some how they see them selves the top and heavy weights

                                                            • Ed Sev
                                                              Ed Sev  6 days back

                                                              No matter what this idiot wil automatically tell ya that Ohio state has the toughest conference despite the the rankings of the top ten teams ranked .
                                                              But seems they go by the teams who are ranked lower than the top ten because apparently they are the hardest teams hmmm I smell rats

                                                              • Ed Sev
                                                                Ed Sev  6 days back

                                                                When your biased towards a particular conference then ya the teams you lift up by mouth are the best

                                                                • Big Bubba What
                                                                  Big Bubba What  6 days back

                                                                  I would love an expansion in College Football even if they just added 3 more weeks to regular season! Who with me! 3 more weeks of College Football!

                                                                  • David Kolb
                                                                    David Kolb  7 days back

                                                                    1. LSU
                                                                    2. Ohio State
                                                                    3. Alabama
                                                                    4. Oregon
                                                                    That’s my final picture. Also, I really want to see an OSU v Oregon rematch or Ohio State facing off against a former Quaterback of their’s. This could be an interesting year for the playoffs...

                                                                    • Gifted Dee
                                                                      Gifted Dee  7 days back

                                                                      Freddy need to get fired

                                                                      • Josh Gorman
                                                                        Josh Gorman  7 days back

                                                                        Ohio state is not going to beat both Clemson and the top SEC team or the top 2 SEC teams. We've seen this story over and over and Ohio state doesn't measure up

                                                                        • Josh Gorman
                                                                          Josh Gorman  7 days back

                                                                          Tua was injured and almost won

                                                                          • R DULA
                                                                            R DULA  7 days back

                                                                            Get rid of non conference games all together and expand the playoff to 64

                                                                            • Shawn Snow
                                                                              Shawn Snow  1 weeks back

                                                                              Joel Klatt is always good for a laugh

                                                                              • clock9596
                                                                                clock9596  1 weeks back

                                                                                Klatt is way off on the playoff topic

                                                                                • Antonio Smith
                                                                                  Antonio Smith  1 weeks back

                                                                                  Penn state loss...yall dont know sports...

                                                                                  Sports know talent... Not people

                                                                                  • Eric Smith
                                                                                    Eric Smith  1 weeks back

                                                                                    @12:30 I agree with Klatt. For the casual fans, a ‘bama vs. LSU game in the regular season would mean less over time with an 8-team playoff. Maybe not the first or second year of the 8-team playoff but over time, some of the rivalry games and current “big games” would matter less because 1 and 2 loss teams in Power conferences would still get playoff bids anyway. So the regular season WOULD mean less. Agree with Joel. Although it would give way to out of conference rivalries to take shape via a larger playoff format (i.e. Clemson vs. ‘bama).

                                                                                    • Tee Dee
                                                                                      Tee Dee  1 weeks back

                                                                                      Joel is right and they refuse to agree.

                                                                                      • dēaþ
                                                                                        dēaþ  1 weeks back

                                                                                        Oregon lost to a true freshman making his first career start. They've also beaten a lot of teams that have huge flaws and so-so seasons. As it stands now, I think it'll be Ohio State, LSU, Clemson, and Alabama. Ohio State-Bama and LSU-Clemson in the first round.

                                                                                        • Aidan Gallo
                                                                                          Aidan Gallo  4 days back

                                                                                          dēaþ it’s basically the same for Clemson except they pulled out a win against UNC, a worse team than Auburn. Oregon has beat teams with flaws? Clemson has beat nobodies.