Film Theory: Spiderman vs Spiderman Battle Royale!

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  • The Film Theorists
    The Film Theorists   6 months back

    Since a lot of people are asking about the Far From Home finale, two things we factored in but didn't expressly write into the episode:

    1. Across BOTH MCU movies, Peter's use of the Spider Sense is inconsistent, just like the other Spidermen. Writers tend to "forget" that it exists when they need to put Spider-Man in danger, and so sure, Tom Holland ends the movie having "mastered" the sense, but we have no evidence that he'll be able to continue using it from this point forward (and we guessed he probably won't, because it'll make him too OP if he can predict EVERY move headed his way). We have to go by what we've seen...and his sense up until the end of FFH hasn't been great.
    2. Yes, he "masters" the Spider Sense at the end, but is it giving him faster reactions times? He's able to SEE THROUGH THE ILLUSIONS of Mysterio...which helps him avoid bullets and avoid the gun...but his REACTION TIME is still on par with the other Spidermen (at least when it comes to avoiding LOTS of bullets, which they all can do). It gave him better intuition. So again, largely a wash when compared to the other portrayals of the character.


    Don't get me wrong...Tom Holland is my FAVORITE Spider-Man. But FFH didn't give us the confidence that the Spider Sense was that much better than anyone else's. As such, when it comes to power set, in our estimation, Miles in Spiderverse still wins.


    But like I said, it's a theory. There are TONS of ways to analyze the question. I'm really enjoying reading everyone's thoughts on the issue -- keep 'em coming!

    • Ariel Nagar
      Ariel Nagar  1 days back

      The Film Theorists you explained that really well

    • The Not Normal YouTube Channel
      The Not Normal YouTube Channel  2 days back

      Since I love animated movies a lot more than real ones. That basically means that my favorite is Into The Spider-Verse.

    • ElectricRampage
      ElectricRampage  6 days back

      There's one massive problem with this theory matpat, if u notice peter is wearing that suit when he does that with the boat, he then goes onto say he's nothing without the suit, at the end of the movie when he's wearing the suit he made, he has trouble liftin a small section of roof off of himself, in other words the suit gave him alot of his strength

    • Shamia Neal
      Shamia Neal  2 weeks back

      *DID YOU LIKE YOUR OWN COMMENT??????*

    • Squishy Squashy
      Squishy Squashy  3 weeks back

      HOLY MOLY

  • Anthony Jedi
    Anthony Jedi  11 hours back

    10:58 a case of STORM trooper aim

    • Lil Big Jo
      Lil Big Jo  16 hours back

      Wait... What about "spider man into the spider verse"?



      You clickbaited us!!! >: (

      • Little Lab
        Little Lab  1 days back

        The spider sense is used more in far from home theirfore Tom Holland wins

        • EpicGamer32
          EpicGamer32  2 days back

          3:51 WHAT FULLMETAL ALCHEMIST IS A MATHEMATICAL EQUASION?!?!?!?!?!

          • Unwated Parasite
            Unwated Parasite  2 days back

            Can anyone agree w/ me that penny parker is the cutest



            Cuz she's my waifu

            • Spiderman 3.0
              Spiderman 3.0  2 days back

              I just have one question why did you waste our time by waiting till the end to add miles just do that at the beggining and save us a lot of time and I hope you didn't the miles twist at the end for more watch time

              • Kermit Jr
                Kermit Jr  2 days back

                None of them are good spooder man is better then all of them

                • Julius Domanais
                  Julius Domanais  3 days back

                  Hail Toby!

                  • cheesemaker Keesee
                    cheesemaker Keesee  3 days back

                    heck, yeah, this is so emotionally satisfying, because I freaking love miles, and I thought that his abilities were always far beyond that of all the other Spider-Man characters, considering he had electrical powers and learned stuff way faster

                    • Vinster Blox
                      Vinster Blox  4 days back

                      Or his hand just slipped.

                      • Vinster Blox
                        Vinster Blox  4 days back

                        In the amazing spider man the car's number broke he didn't give up.

                        • Luis Perez
                          Luis Perez  5 days back

                          Miles is the best of them all.

                          • Zeneren The Emperor
                            Zeneren The Emperor  5 days back

                            When matpat doesnt even remember his theories, for example at
                            1:43 at "The spiderman 2 mystery"says they are not the same person then in this video the spiderverse and toby maguire spiderman are the same

                            • Josephine Tejada
                              Josephine Tejada  5 days back

                              MILES!?

                              • DutchDevilXL
                                DutchDevilXL  5 days back

                                Hold on. Tobey gets 2 points and Holland 3. Doesnt really seem fair given the major difference

                                • Angel VII
                                  Angel VII  6 days back

                                  Spider-Man just wasn't my cup of tea until Spiderverse. I really love the spin Miles puts on the character. Plus the other multiverse Spidermen were just so fun and entertaining. Made me appreciate the entire franchise in a whole new way.

                                  • PandaPug Book
                                    PandaPug Book  6 days back

                                    Dammit. I wanted Ghost Spider/Spiderwoman/SpiderGwen to win.

                                    • One m Punch m
                                      One m Punch m  6 days back

                                      The didn’t add for the atom deterioration for Peter B Parker

                                      • Logan Briddle
                                        Logan Briddle  7 days back

                                        Did Matpat forget Miles doesn't have web powers.

                                        • Adrian Moshari
                                          Adrian Moshari  7 days back

                                          fma? what a f mama ? ugh.

                                          • XDarkGamerx1983z 1232
                                            XDarkGamerx1983z 1232  7 days back

                                            That’s just a theory a like theory :3 I liked lol

                                            • Dirty Fighters
                                              Dirty Fighters  1 weeks back

                                              Find it weird that you consider the Far From Home scene ridiculous, yet you don't consider Tom holding the Statin island Ferry together ridiculous.

                                              • Arturo Ayala
                                                Arturo Ayala  1 weeks back

                                                15:53-16:06 For me... i think that Noir is (for me) the best, as well (if we also include him using guns), he could also won... by “cheating” though...

                                                • Bubsy 3D Official Fan Club

                                                  Yeah bu Tom and to I finished in different places so they aren’t the same. Tom Holland only lost in the. Spider sense category which all,of them failed in soooo I give it to Tom as he is stronger and has better webs

                                                  • Luxray Lloyd
                                                    Luxray Lloyd  1 weeks back

                                                    Miles

                                                    Edit: I was right.

                                                    • Isaac Graham
                                                      Isaac Graham  1 weeks back

                                                      5:45 this is really sad (to me at least) :(

                                                      • Michael Randol
                                                        Michael Randol  1 weeks back

                                                        I gotta say the miles one had a bit of luck plus the old and out of shape Peter b Parker is a far stretch to being close to Tobey in his prime.

                                                        • Daleep Chahal
                                                          Daleep Chahal  1 weeks back

                                                          ........................SpiderMan Far From Home

                                                          • Mr. fool
                                                            Mr. fool  1 weeks back

                                                            You also forgot venom strike eletric web for miles

                                                            • Elijah Kempski
                                                              Elijah Kempski  1 weeks back

                                                              Spooder mon spooder mon dos wat ever a spooder con

                                                              • Ford F150
                                                                Ford F150  1 weeks back

                                                                *HeEy*

                                                                • Outstanding Dog Marron
                                                                  Outstanding Dog Marron  1 weeks back

                                                                  Spider Ham has Toon Force abilities so he would win.

                                                                  • VintageRyn *
                                                                    VintageRyn *  1 weeks back

                                                                    Okay but wait...taking into consideration all of Tom Holland’s webs and tech, plus the fact that he is smarter than Toby and Miles, wouldn’t he be guaranteed a win? Heat vision for invisibility from Miles, and tbh as we can see, he’s stronger than Toby, and has more web combos. This really shouldn’t be a contest 😅😅

                                                                    • Dagan kliever
                                                                      Dagan kliever  1 weeks back

                                                                      FAR FROM HOME FAR FROM HOME YOU DIDN'T USE ANY EVIDENCE FROM THAT MOVIE TO SHOW THAT TOM'S SPIDERMANS SPIDER SCENCE IS BAD REDO THIS EPISODE COME ON I STARTED SCREAMING AT THE END OF THE EPISODE AND HE EVEN SHOWED THE FAR FROM HOME POSTER TOM SHOULD HAVE WON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

                                                                      • sherry Yu
                                                                        sherry Yu  1 weeks back

                                                                        what about silk?

                                                                        • Jignesh Patel
                                                                          Jignesh Patel  2 weeks back

                                                                          Well electricity from miles beat King pin and Peter b

                                                                          • Curley Schoop
                                                                            Curley Schoop  2 weeks back

                                                                            9:42 ACTUALLY IN THE Civil War movie he said that his senses were eleven times stronger than normal so that makes it about 0.2 seconds of reaction time

                                                                            • Caleb S
                                                                              Caleb S  2 weeks back

                                                                              I'd say after Far From Home Tom Holland definitely beats out Tobey by a bit

                                                                              • REIGN
                                                                                REIGN  2 weeks back

                                                                                “Just because i have spider sense doesn’t mean i have common sense” peter parker

                                                                                • Your Brain
                                                                                  Your Brain  2 weeks back

                                                                                  Which bear is best?

                                                                                  • Evan Gordon
                                                                                    Evan Gordon  2 weeks back

                                                                                    Wait but Peter B. Parker uses web shooters and Tobey’s Spider-Man uses organic webs so they can’t be the same person

                                                                                    • Sweeped
                                                                                      Sweeped  2 weeks back

                                                                                      Matpat: *calls it a two way tie because of Tom's lack of spider sense*
                                                                                      MCU: Pathetic
                                                                                      MCU: *has peter "master" his spider sense*
                                                                                      Matpat: Hold my theory

                                                                                      • jocie
                                                                                        jocie  2 weeks back

                                                                                        How do you know that spiderverse Peter b is Toby and not the blonde and ded Spiderman

                                                                                        • Random old lady sucking an ice lolly

                                                                                          What about Spiderman into the Spiderverse

                                                                                          • Lorenzo Jones
                                                                                            Lorenzo Jones  2 weeks back

                                                                                            Go miles🥇

                                                                                            • ZF Nightwing
                                                                                              ZF Nightwing  2 weeks back

                                                                                              Well Toms spider man is still devopeing his abilities I.E. is spider sense will be much better in a few movies