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He loved joker but hated this .... ironically “ we do live in a society”

Charlie: *gives this movie a 50%*

Also Charlie: *gives Terminator: Dark Fate an 80%*

The movie isn't meant to be deep nor is it pretentious. Yeah it doesn't follow a traditional three act structure but that's a breath of fresh air. It was a fun hang out movie with engaging dialog and funnier than most comedies out there. I get it isn't for everyone though and see how someone could easily get bored. It's one of those polarizing films.

Honestly the movie is really good in my opinion. It's not as good as other Tarantino's movies but it's still really good

This movie was the Last Jedi of Tarantino's career, imo. Not in the way people responded to it, but in the way it constantly builds up with little to no payoff.

Spot on, Charlie. I kept waiting for the plot, some inciting incident, some goal. But no, it's just a meandering story of some Hollywood pricks. Also feet. Lot of feet.
First Tarantino film I didn't like, feels odd. Also the guy who played Manson... what a waste, he also played Manson in Mindhunter and he naillllled it.

It was a great movie, the characters were very well written and loveable. I thought it was interesting that it just followed them around in their daily lives. I was concerned when I saw the 70% audience score on RT but it exceeded my expectations.

Great analysis. I absolutely loved it, just because making movies is what I want to do. But I can see how people would be left confused for most of the movie

After having seen the movie twice in theaters (once shortly after release, once recently for the extended cut), this review doesn't hold up. Normally, you're the person I rely on for movie reviews, but I feel like the plot completely flew over your head, as well as the message. Yes, *some* of the message is about acceptance of aging, but in my eyes, the biggest message isn't even a message, more of a theme of "there ain't no business like show business."


I'll be making a review/deep-dive of it myself at some point in the coming months, probably shortly after the blu-ray drops so I can use clips of it to express my points, but the idea that "it's a movie of nothing-ness" and that "all these things happen and they go nowhere, you don't see any of these characters again" is bullshit. Every event in the movie adds up and culminates in the finale of the movie. Maybe you just weren't really in the right mindset, or weren't paying as much attention to the over-arching plot, but man...


This really is a disappointing review. I say that as a long time fan. I still love your content, this isn't going to deter me from continuing to watch your stuff and stay subbed, I just had to come back to this after having thought about it.

long movie? no thanks

Fucking Hippie

Charles you just posted cringe

The narrative is there, just completely beneath the surface.

The plot of the movie is that Rick feels unaccepted, and his goal is to be accepted. That isn't announced or told, it's shown in the very last scene. Sharon Tate represents the group he wants to be accepted to. The _real_ famous people. Sharon invites him in and the film ends because Rick's goal has been achieved.

The whole point is that the tension goes nowhere until the last scene. He builds tension throughout the film by having none. And then finally, the narration and the time stamps become more frequent, more specific, and you think "something is important is about to happen." All hell breaks loose, and then the world is brought back to tranquility.

50% is unfair. And in fact y you didnt get the movie, joking about that doesnt change that.

I agree. Just watched the movie. I agree 100% with you.

You're saying you didn't enjoy Brad beating the shit out of that Manson boi on the ranch and the bits leading up to it? I thought that was fantastic

We all have opinions. I like QT, I also don't think people like Quentin Tarantino because they're pretentious. I believe there is lots to appreciate in all of his movies including OUTIH.
But I understand the sentiment, this film is particularly strange and probably isn't a "good" movie by any traditional metric. That being said it is exceptionally well crafted in almost every facet of its production and I love experiencing QT's genuine love and appreciation for film in his own work. While I disagree, I am glad you put your opinion out there despite the fact that some may be more hostile to your take.

*SPOILERS*

I'm not hating on your opinion, just putting my take on the film out there. I didn't see the movie as about just Leonardo's role of his dying fame as the main story. I saw how each individual character's experience in the different levels of fame. Leonardo was the bigshot A list celebrity losing his fame as previously talked about. Brad Pitts character is someone who is a crucial part to a movie but is not known and hard to find work. Margrot Robbie's character was more of a C+ or B class actress, who is well off but isn't very well known and is able to live the celebrity life discreetly (the movie theater scene). You saw the director who's old and out of style being used by the hippies. The little girl who's only 8 years old, but acts like a full grown adult due to Hollywood's intense image. I think the movie was more focused on the different takes on Hollywood, instead of just Leonardo's character accepting his loss of fame. But the ending was bad ass as shit!

Yeah the movie is boring as fuck. There were literally 10 minute shots in which fuck-all happens

You don't need some insider Hollywood knowledge man, you don't really need to know anything to enjoy it...it puts you in the world and your explore it. People who do have some basic knowledge about the 60s might like it better, but the jokes aren't pandering to some high-ranking Hollywood veterans like you make it out be.

It's a movie and you can have your opinions (you didn't like it as much as I did and that's fine), I just wanted to point out something you said that I don't agree with.

I agree. It was just all other the place. Personally I couldn't relate to any of the characters or sympathize much with them. Just a bunch of unsatisfied first world actors. I don't care about what that pretty blond actress does..

If this movie's boring, then why did I see it four times in theaters?

YOU GAVE JUSTICE LEAGUE A 55 WTF

someone's pissed

It wasn't very eventfull but goddamn was the acting good. Things like casual conversations at the tv near the end of the movie were just so well done.

The subtle reference of Manson and Sharon asking, “who’s that?” was well executed

Guessing we saw two different movies? I loved it.

I agree with a lot of what you said but it deserves a 70-80% at least.

only point you make criticizing is the lack of narrative. that is not something he ‘tries’ to experiment with as you say, that is his style. you not liking it would not make it pointless as you go on emphasizing throughout the video. It is thus not ‘empty’ at all, it is filled with unique style, tone and acting as you also did give credit for… tarantino movies are like roller coaster rides they do not need to go somewhere or have a reason you just fucking enjoy them.

50 fucking percent

Quinten Tarantino really showcases his massive foot fetish in this movie

The plot is pretty clever and the movie builded op to the final moment where rick dalton screamed at the hippies scouting Sharon tate house (Sharon tate was killed by hippies in her hollywood home) and the hippies drives off and decideds to kill Rick instead where he actually saves Tate for being murdered like real life, Quentin Tarantino is actually a genius, and many people never noticed this back plot of being a story about Sharon tate's tragic death.

It's a nostalgia trip for boomers and gen x'ers. I watched it a 2nd time. It has the happiest ending possible if you understand history. It raises the significance and tragedy of the 3rd or 4th most heinous acts of the 60s (after the Kennedy and MLK murders). The Manson murders ruined California and the 60s as a dream. Do more homework next time!

I really liked this movie. But that's just my opinion

It was really fun watching Margot robbie go to the movies for an entire hour

I loved the loose plot of the movie, it breaks away from the classic revenge story. The ending is on par with inglorious basterds. The references are great, I love the 60s aesthetic. The ranch scene is beautiful, if you knew about the Manson family you'd love the scene. The Sharon Tate plot is to lead you to believe she'd die. Loved the movie, one of Tarantino's best.

That's because you're judging it the wrong way. Not every movie has to be a story. Some are just attitudes or just a day-in-a-life-of. This movie is a feels good movie- a day in the life of a washed-up actor and his stuntman in the ever-changing world of the '60s Hollywood - you are not supposed to have anything holding you in your seat waiting for the end of the movie other than waiting to see what these guys are up to. Not every movie has to be a mystery where you just can't wait for the end, some movies just make you enjoy the journey. You can say you don't like this type of movies, which is cool, but you gotta admit there is more than one way to tell a story. In addition, not every character has to have n impact on the movie. Take for example Donny in The Big Lebowski: he is a minor character and their purpose is not necessarily to affect the plot but tho make the movie richer.

One thing that I feel was absolutely necessary for viewing the movie, is knowing about the murder of Sharon Tate and the Manson family. the majority of the suspense is built off the unspoken knowledge of what is suppose to happen. The movie is both the directors love letter to Hollywood and a revenge story , as he is known for, for the murders.
While I was watching for the first time the slower moments with Tate were more emotional for me knowing what is suppose to happen to her, and with introducing the Manson family at the ranch.
The closer they came to the date that the murder took place the more anxious I was feeling.

whereas my sister, who watched with me, knew nothing about Sharon Tate or the Manson family and thought the movie was long and boring and didn't make sense.

I really enjoyed it and felt it was one the best recent films I had seen in a while.

Though I didn't know about the strangling that Tarintino did.

Although I feel differently about the film, I can generally understand where he’s coming from with his particular opinion of the movie. However, the one thing I have to just genuinely disagree with is his belief that Robbie’s version of Sharon Tate “doesn’t do anything” the whole movie, because I think her character serves to sort of humanize Tate (who’s usually only depicted in relation to the Manson murders, and not as an actual living, breathing human being) as well as a line of Red Haring meant to make the ending even more impactful in its (SPOILER) enormous departure from the actual events of the Manson Murders

The fact that it’s a movies without feeling like a movie makes it great. It’s Hollywood actors at the end of their career trying to deal with their dwindling sense of succes, which is in my opinion best captured when you put them in daily situations. The first half isn’t all that flashy, but I would never describe it as boring.

Pussy

I stopped watching your shitty review when you said that scene on a ranch was bad. Oh boy, IT WAS THE WHOLE POINT of the scene to make you expect unexpected, but at the end you're still surprised. You're a fucking idiot smh

damn critikal got filtered hard

I disagree with everything you said personally

It's a very beautiful movie. I wanted to lick (not literally lol) like an each frame of it. Especially shots in the night at the end. If even all other stuff is shit (which I think is generally not, but I agree with you on some points), this kind of beautiful cinematography alone should be making you to watch this movie, and watch it on a big screen

looks like charlie got pleb filtered